The left over leadership (the pastor and his wife) brought in new elders and started all over again.
But I suggest reading my post on it first…. Hmm….
Not worldly success, not material wealth, not popularity.
Similar to rapture which is a reference to an event found in scripture. In popular church in Jacksonville FL, an elder was approached by a Prophet with a dream. Five Fold ministry is a reference to a group of ministers not found in scripture. It had happened, just as stated by the Prophet.
You see, this is not about placing one above or over another, but placing them in the order in which they were needed at the time!
Yet they are not Shepherds as we think of them.
God placed different gifts and callings, It was never meant to be a hierarchical, top-down list of positions.
They accomplished this more than a millennia ago.
Mark 7: 7-9 States that when we follow the ways and commandments of men, we nullify the commandments and Kingdom of God.
But Teachers are gifted by the Holy Spirit to break and serve the Word in a way that all who receive can digest it and understand. Psalms 100:3, Where you think you read about Christ being a husband and the Church being his bride is scripture describing the relationship between a husband and wife as an example of how Christ loves the Church. Evangelist:Equip the saints for ministry. Without a prophet, the church is blind. (Or should I say ‘PROFITS’)The answer: Neither. That the truth of God’s Word is being taught rightly divided to God’s people and that the needs of the people are being attended to by the local Elders. But Teachers are gifted by the Holy Spirit to break and serve the Word in a way that all who receive can digest it and understand. Think of the damage to all the new believers that could have been avoided. This one man had almost as much influence with people as that Mega Church from Jacksonville.
It is a listing of ministry gifts given to some to keep the body of Christ growing and moving forward toward Christ’s return. Unfortunately, the word revealed from the Prophet was true and eventually broke the church up. For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. Or do they remain local and preach where sent or ‘released’ to go? For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: … Ephesians 5:23.
Five-fold ministries must be defined from this perspective. Uh, no.
They take the time to carefully disseminate understanding, wisdom, and knowledge. They are easy to spot. But everyone in ministry should be able to teach. 3. Who did Jesus say , “God in his wisdom is sending forth…. EPHESIANS 2: 19,20 Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. This calling can save countless lives and heartaches.
Mostly those from broken homes(the fatherless). God used the Prophets to correct and direct.
While placing such importance on the five, what happened to the Deacon? I could go on with this but here’s the deal.
Therefore, I am sending you Prophets and sages and Teachers. That the truth of God’s Word is being taught rightly divided to God’s people and that the needs of the people are being attended to by the local Elders.
Even the Pastor is a sheep in the flock of God! I cannot attest for it’s accuracy. But yet, Timothy was told to do the work of an Evangelist in 2 Timothy 4:5. Next, “Some prophets…” Sure!
It is only from this perspective that the prophet can see the task of teaching others to hear the voice of God. But everyone in ministry should be able to teach. Even Pastors and Teachers. But you will not find it in scripture.
They are to hear the word of The Lord for the church. Now, we have the more sure Word of Prophecy according to 2 Peter 1:19. It even says it right there in the text.
When I say self appointed I mean they establish themselves as appointed by God to run the church.
Try it! Even those in leadership began to fall away. What mystery is that, 9. who does God promise to speak with about what is happening on the earth, 10.
To day if ye will hear his voice, Psalms 95:7 Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. According to that text, the Church IS NOT the Bride of Christ! One who expounds on the written word. Rob is able to take mysteries revealed by Prophets and explain them scripturaly. But yet, Timothy was told to do the work of an Evangelist in, Pastors are those set to feed the flock of God. So, the Holy Spirit is grieved and thus no signs and wonders. The Origin of the Five-Fold Ministry.
There is no place for power-mongers and people on ego trips in the Kingdom of God. As it goes, the Apostles and Prophets work together to create the foundation, without which, the Church will fail.
Even today, Sandy has her children on the streets with her evangelizing. All are on the same level. I have observed that confronting the self appointed leaders in the current set up of the church is futile.
Almost everyone who claims to hold one of the offices mentions it at some point. Shortly after that, the same Prophet told the same elder, God had shown him that the Pastor’s wife was being inappropriate with one of the other elders in the church.
The question is, what is it, what does it mean, and how biblical is it?
Since that time, he became an officer and a pilot. But that was in Israel! Maybe he’s the part of the hand the fingers are attached to and on which the fingers depend on to carry them around. Note this as well. To Equip, 8. We have gone so far from scripture and into the flesh through self-aggrandizement and puffiness. Because of this experience her concern for the lost became all consuming. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam.
They are the ones God speaks to before He does anything on the earth. Generally Apostles are assigned to areas by God. All those whom God has truly called, serve the body. It is a listing of ministry gifts, All those whom God has truly called, serve the body. Even in the life of Jesus, the two functions of prophet and teacher operated differently, yet both were valid at …
So how accurate is it?
Learn how your comment data is processed. It should be noted that Jesus warned against false teachers. The index finger represents the Prophet.
Read Acts 8:26-40. They should be able to either confirm or reject the message. It’s doubtful anyone can explain with any confidence where the term originates.
Rob also felt called to teach the Bible.
Well, all who are of age and. He can help others understand the Bible. If you want to know the true Bride of Christ, read, According to that text, the Church IS NOT, ! The elder told the Prophet that He(the Prophet) was missing it and that God had placed the Pastor and His wife over this ministry. If we can buy into the finger explanation, why not? Sorry, not true. Remember this was already done during the Early Church. They are the two lamp stands found in revelations calling down fire and stopping the rain.
We don’t leave there without one or two people hearing the gospel. What has actually changed? It was never meant to be a hierarchical, top-down list of positions.
The question is, what is it, what does it mean, and how biblical is it? Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. They say that because the middle finger happens to be between the index and ring fingers.
They mean nothing if we are weak in our knowledge of the truth and our lives are not up to God’s standards.
Cares for the flock(believers). They assist our Chief Shepherd, Jesus Christ (.
Joined to the body supernaturally held together. The Prophets are in the church to warn and expose. The sending of the Prophet and the Apostle. I have watched him mentor young men through his work through friendship, online etc. Oh, and by the way, as far as the thumb being the only finger that can touch all other fingers?
Hebrews 11:32-40. The middle finger represents the Evangelist. And Elders.
That is his mission statement. In Rich said, most teenagers are knuckle heads and He did not want them to make the same mistakes He did.
he just smiled. Some clever person thought this up. All who rightly divide and preach instruction, direction, and correction from the sure Word of Prophecy can be considered doing the work of the Prophet.
It is youth pastor. But we know that Christ is the Head. The ring finger represents the Pastor.
Luke 11:49 Because of this, God in His wisdom said.”I will send them Prophets and Apostles.”, AMOS 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealed his secret unto his servants the Prophets.
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